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“WHAT WOULD JESUS SAY ABOUT….?

As we shared with you last week, we have re-launched a series from last year, entitled: “HOT TOPICS!” (Yup, more controversial stuff from Mid-Lakes)
The beauty in doing this though, is how we have a much larger blog family than last year and there are even a few who say they are anxious to re-visit the topic’s as well. Soooo, we’re diving back in and addressing issues that in many cases, have become very difficult for people to deal with and may even find embarrassing,
But the thing to remember, is as we strive to become more like Jesus,,, these issues must be addressed.
Are you ready?

BTW, this information was stolen from the Pastor’s notes, on the Message Series entitled: “Hot Topics” as it was taught by Mid Lakes Christian Church Senior Pastor; Doug Dykstra last year. (See what you missed?)

Let’s begin:

A very proud Dad is attending his son’s graduation from Marine basic training… Dad has some time to kill before the festivities, so he visits the base’s PX. There, he sees a tee shirt that was folded for display and he liked the color, so he bought it.

He put it on, and without realizing it, walked all around the base with a Tee shirt that read: “My boyfriend is a Marine” on the back of the shirt.

Our culture has changed drastically in the last couple of decades, homosexuality is a huge emotional football, evoking all kinds of emotions from fear, to anger, and even hatred. It is causing many parents to grieve, and many, who are caught in homosexuality have shame, sorrow, despair, and heartache, while others claim to have great joy.

Sadly, some pharisaic “Christians” are showing hatred and their attitudes show them to be out of touch with Jesus. On that note, homosexual hatred is being returned in kind, believe me.

CERTAIN CONTROVERSY

I don’t know any topic that creates more vehement reactions in people – even in the church! (Except perhaps the current MCC controversy over Hawaiian Shirts!) inside joke…

Oddly, there are many people who view homosexuality as harmless – they believe everyone should be tolerant of anything that goes on. Others are facing self-doubt about their own passions, while others, who are in same-sex relationships, have much to say about it, that’s for sure

Then there are the many Kids, who think homosexuality is cool and are considering experimenting with it. This has clearly become much more than just one of the more controversial and divisive topics in the church and even in society at large.

WE FULLY REALIZE THAT NOT EVERYONE WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THIS ARTICLE, But, when you are done, at least you’ll know what the Bible says on the subject in spite of the fact that there may be many who don’t care. I can’t control your response, or even how you feel about the subjects, but as a minister of the Gospel I have a responsibility to tell the truth, and that, I will endeavor to do.

MY GOAL….

To present this topic with truth, hope, and grace… When I’m done, you can get alone with God and sort out the issues with Him.

Now, let’s try to view objectively the Bible’s teaching on this controversial subject

HOMOSEXUALITY THROUGH HISTORY

1.      The Bible tells us that early in man’s history, a whole city, Sodom (and others, too) had a full-blown case of homosexuality and a variety of other sins, as well.    (Genesis 19)

2.      The Greeks were notoriously homosexual.   They had a school for girls on the Island of Lesbos, which is where we get our term for female homosexuality, “lesbian”

3.      Roman Empire was committed to homosexuality (14 of the first 15 emperors)

4.      In the early 1900’s, Freud and others declared homosexuality to be a result of environment of children as they are raised – They considered it a mental illness

5.      Then a few decades ago, other psychologists determined it was a genetic thing.

6.      Finally, homosexuality got “cured” overnight-by a simple vote.   They got the American Psychiatric Association to say that same-sex sex was “not a disorder.”   It became merely “a condition” – as neutral as left-handedness.

7.      They actually managed to normalize it

8.      But, today, after a huge effort by the homosexual activists, we see homosexuality is actually being pushed on the population

a.            A high number of gays are now all over the television, movies…

b.            Today, it’s being pushed in classrooms as young as middle-school through college with pro-homosexual diversity training

c.            There is a lot of social pressure to make sure that no one speaks out against homosexuality.   (That’s just not PC any more)

1.      The Christian football player, Reggi White lost a lucrative advertising endorsement because he publicly spoke out against homosexuality.   He’d have been more than safe if he had spoken out against Christianity, though.

2.      The Christian world-view and the world’s viewpoint will constantly be in conflict with each other.

3.      Those who don’t embrace the Bible are expecting the church to be tolerant of every wind of teaching that the world wants us to meekly accept.    They resent us when we remind them of sin

d.            If the church doesn’t accept their life-style, it is accused of being bigoted, self-righteous and homophobic

e.            But the truth is that the Bible does condemn this sin – along with all other sins – and nothing that they say will change that

f.            Unless the Bible recants it’s position, we cannot be budged from ours

g.            People tell us that we should be “tolerant” –  but, tolerance is the easy virtue of people for who don’t stand for anything….

TODAY, EVERYONE IS VERY AWARE OF THE ISSUE

1.      It’s all over the news

2.      It’s on everyone’s mind today

3.      Chuck Lee, assoc min at one of our churches went to airport to pick up his wife.   He was carrying a dozen red roses.   Three ladies walking past him on the sidewalk:   “Oooo, Lucky gal”

Chuck said:  “No!  Lucky guy!”

And the three women gasped….

  • He meant of course, that he was a lucky guy for having his wonderful wife

BUT WHAT REALLY SHOCKS ME IS THE CHURCHES OF TODAY

1.      If the church – the nation’s moral anchor – has lost its hold, where will the nation be?

2.      In an attempt to appear “relevant” to our world, many churches have compromised biblical standards

3.      Rather than becoming the salt of the earth – churches are trying to be sugar.

THE PICTURE THAT THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY IS TRYING TO PAINT

1.      Homosexuals try to convince us that they are committed to stable, monogamous relationships, but the Institute for Sex Research paints a different picture.

a.            Only 10% of the homosexual community could be even relatively considered monogamous.

b.            Therefore, 90% are promiscuous

3.      Certainly, heterosexuals aren’t all monogamous, either, but a much higher percentage than homosexuals are!

PHYSICAL CONSEQUENCES OF HOMOSEXUALITY

HOMOSEXUAL MEN:

1.      ARE 6 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE than heterosexuals

2.      AVERAGE AGE IF HOMOSEXUAL DYING OF AGE IS 39.

3.      AVERAGE AGE OF DYING EXCLUDING AIDS IS 41

4.      THE AVERAGE HETEROSEXUAL MAN WILL LIVE TO 75

5.      ONLY 1% OF HOMOSEXUAL MEN DIE OF OLD AGE

WHY?

1.       43% OF HOMOSEXUAL MEN ADMIT TO 500 OR MORE DIFFERENT SEXUAL PARTNERS

2.      28% BOAST OF OVER 1000 SEXUAL PARTNERS (obviously they are nearly all strangers)

3.      AT ANY TIME, 78% OF HOMOSEXUAL MEN ARE CURRENTLY SUFFERING FROM AT LEAST ONE STD

THEIR PASSION AND RESTLESSNESS ARE FREIGHTING

1. It’s not a life-style —  it’s a death-style

2.      Most people thinking smoking is deadly

a.      But, the average smoking male dies at 66

b.      The average homosexual dies at 41.

c.      Meaning, a smoker will live 25 years longer than the homosexual even if he doesn’t contract AIDS.   And the non-smoker, hetero will live 34 years longer

3.      Homosexuality isn’t a life-style — it’s a death style!

GET THIS:    HOMOSEXUALS ARE ONLY 2% OF THE USA POPULATION, BUT THEY ARE INFECTED WITH 50% OF ALL STD’s

HOMOSEXUAL WOMEN

AVERAGE AGE AT DEATH IS 45, COMPARED TO 79 FOR NON-LESBIAN WOMEN

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?

A.            NOTHING!  ….  AT LEAST THAT’S WHAT HOMOSEXUALS SAY.

1.      The truth is that, as homosexuals gleefully point out, Jesus didn’t say one word about it.   They believe this shows Jesus’ approval

2.      Actually, Jesus may have said something, but not recorded.   John tells us that;

25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.    (Jn 21:25)

B.            BUT, WE MUST REMEMBER THAT JESUS SPENT HIS ENTIRE MINISTRY AMONG THE JEWS

1.      The Jews had a “zero tolerance policy” toward homosexuality. Homosexuality didn’t exist there. So, it was one of those topics that just didn’t come up

2.      But, beside that, making an argument from the Bible’s silence is not very compelling:

a.      To use their logic, we could say that Jesus approved of rape, wife beating, child molestation, incest, bestiality – because nothing He may have said about those things is recorded either.

b.      The truth is that every time Jesus discussed legitimate sexuality, it was always heterosexuality

c.      And he spoke only of celibacy as the only alternative to marriage.

C.            SO, WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?

1.      “ ‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.    (Lev 18:22) ~  In Lev 20:13, God says the penalty for such sin is death.

2.      In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.   (Jude vs 7)

~            Here Jude is reminding us of the terrible destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in Gen 19:1-8.    God totally destroyed their city for a sin whose name continues to this day – sodomy.

3.      Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.   Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.  27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.  Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.    (Rom 1:26-27)

C.            WHAT IS JESUS’ ATTITUDE TOWARD THE HOMOSEXUAL?

1.      We all know the answer to that – He loves them

2.      He loves adulterers, liars, murderers, too

3.      But that doesn’t mean that He approves of their behavior

4.      But, love is different than salvation

III.        WHAT WOULD JESUS SAY….

A.           WHAT WOULD JESUS SAY TO STRAIGHT, OR HETEROSEXUAL INDIVIDUALS

1.            DO NOT EXPERIMENT

a.     This is sin – and all sin is contagious

b.      The reason people are enslaved to homosexuality is because it was fun at first for them. But sin starts out as fun…becomes enslavement…and ends in death

c.      There’s nothing glamorous about becoming a slave to sin

d.      There’s nothing glamorous about the diseases you will in all likelihood contract

2.            CLING TO THE TRUTH

a.       We must find the proper balance between : “love” and “truth”

Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.  (Eph 4:15)

b.      But, love doesn’t mean we’ll back off on truth – In fact, love demands the truth!

Especially with so much at stake

c.       Sometimes, in an effort to be “nice,” the church does not stand as strongly as it should against sin.

1.      I agree that we should be nice. We have a loving God; we should be loving people.

2.      But we need to understand that we do not love people, when we tolerate their sin. We are not doing them a favor when we say, “everything is fine,” when everything isn’t fine.

3.      That is not love; that is just cowardice. We are afraid to say the truth.

4.      Sometimes the church is afraid to say the truth, and that is sad because if there is one place in our society where we ought to speak plainly – not cruelly, not harshly – but plainly, it is in church.

5.      And homosexuals need to understand that it’s not “gay-bashing” to tell the truth

e.       Don’t allow our society’s standards to dictate your position on anything

f.        Even once conservative groups are caving in.

Recently, at Calvin College (CRC) in Grand Rapids, Michigan, great turmoil was raised as an anti-homosexual rights speaker arrived on campus. More than one thousand students attended his speech, so the school’s administrators decided that they must also present the pro-homosexual view.

The problem is that homosexual activists (and our P.C. society in general) want the church to say that homosexual patterns of behavior are not sinful.  They want us to say that it is all right for them to live that sort of lifestyle.   And we cannot do that.

If a serial killer commits 25 murders, we will not say:  That’s all right, you are just living an alternative lifestyle, Right?

We won’t say to someone, like John Dillinger, that it’s ok to go around robbing banks and shooting cops, Right?

If someone is doing drugs, that is not all right – and we need to say that.

Homosexuals are the only group which demand that the church accept their sin without teaching them to repent.

3.      BE LOVING TO ALL– there is no difference

Remember:   Just because you’re not tempted in this area doesn’t make you one bit superior and loving people who are caught up in sin is not the same thing as compromising the truth. We aren’t abandoning Christ when we treat homosexuals with grace – we’re fulfilling His commands, giving acceptance is not the same thing as giving approval

In an interview Hugh Downs had with Billy Graham on the 20/20 program, the subject turned to homosexuality.   Downs asked Billy:   “If you had a homosexual child, would you love him?”

Graham answered:   “Why, I would love that one even more.”

The only difference is Jesus can’t love anyone more than He already does – He loves each of us as far as love can go.

4.      RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PREFERENCE AND PRACTICE

It’s not a sin to experience homosexual desires, being tempted is NOT sin!

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.  (Heb 4:15)

The term “high priest” refers to part of Jesus’ ministry towards us;

2.            Notice, He was:   “tempted in every way, just as we are — yet was

without sin”

c.            Homosexuals / Heterosexuals – everyone has temptations:

  • Alcoholics,  compulsive gamblers,  Eating disorders
  • No one has bragging rights

Even Homosexuals who have come out of it still will struggle, as anyone with an addiction does….

1.    Their passions still surface?                                    Yes             That’s called Temptation

2.    Can they be overcome?                                               Yes            That’s called self-denial

3.    Can desire for the opposite sex be rekindled?       Yes            That’s called the transformation of                                                                                                                           the Holy Spirit

WHAT WOULD JESUS SAY TO THE “HOMOSEXUAL”?

1.        OPEN UP TO THE TRUTH

a.        The first step is to hear the word of the Lord

b.        Many homosexuals are in a state of denial

1.      First, they won’t even admit that they have a spiritual problem, or that the Bible even speaks on the problem

2.      Second, they say that it doesn’t matter if it is a sin – that’s how God made them and they cannot change.

Elizabeth Birch, former director of the Human Rights Campaign, the largest gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender advocacy group in the nation says that: “Biblical teachings against homosexuality are the equivalent of prohibitions against eating shellfish.” She also objects to the idea that homosexuals can change. She believes that homosexuality is an immutable, natural characteristic, and can never be changed.

2.      UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MUST CHANGE

9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

(I Cor 6:9-10)

Repentance is key

God doesn’t necessarily have a plan for the homosexual to turn around today, and then tomorrow get married, and have a family. Some, if not most, will fight this temptation all their days – every day.   Just as we all fight temptation – every day. But God is expecting that we all must develop self-control and not act on our lusts, like the rest of mankind

3.            UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN CHANGE

Homosexuals want to believe that their orientation is genetic, the logic being that if God made me this way, I’m not responsible – and I can’t change – besides, I don’t need to change because it’s not my fault. Therefore, only bigots would expect me to change my lifestyle.

9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were.   But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.   (I Cor 6:9-11)

Homosexuals must understand that they may have those same sex desires the rest of their lives… But they must also realize that everyone has their own problems and temptations to overcome.

CHANGE OR DIE!

Get in touch with Celebrate Recovery here at MCC!

Call:    EXODUS INTERNATIONAL www.exodusinternational.org/

IT’S TIME TO MAKE THE MOVE

a.            It’s time to take the risk and make the decision to change

b.            It’s time to trust the church to love you anyway

IN FACT, IT’S TIME FOR ALL OF US TO MAKE THE MOVE!

Below is a copy of MCC’s position paper on the subject of homosexuality.  We have this pamphlet available in the foyer in the booklet called:  “WHERE WE STAND ON THE HOT TOPICS”

HOMOSEXUALITY

Mid-Lakes Christian Church

Mid-Lakes Christian Church is an evangelical church, maintaining that the Bible is God’s Word and our final source of authority in doctrine and practice.  Therefore, it is the stance of our church that homosexuality is a sin against God but is not an unforgivable sin (Lev. 18:22; Rom. 1:18; 1 Cor. 6:9-11).  We believe that God calls those engaged in homosexual behavior to repent of their sin and commit to celibacy.  Christ said to the woman caught in adultery, “Neither do I condemn you; go now and leave your life of sin” (John 8:11).  In the same way, Christ calls those engaged in homosexual sin to repent and accept Christ’s love and forgiveness.  Paul reminded the Corinthians that those engaged in certain behaviors, including “homosexual offenders,” who refused to repent, would not inherit the Kingdom of God.  But then he added, “such were some of you, but you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus” (1 Cor. 6:9-11).  The wonderful message to the person engaging in homosexual behavior is that through the power of Christ he or she can change.  The temptation may remain, but the Holy Spirit can give you the power to remain celibate and pure.

Christians should therefore reach out to those engaged in homosexual behavior with Christ’s message of love and forgiveness without endorsing the behavior.  If you discover that your child is addicted to drugs, the loving thing to do is to express compassion and understanding, and to help him overcome his addiction.  The same should be our attitude when we discover that a loved one is addicted to a sexual sin.  Mid-Lakes Christian Church recommends ministries that reach out to those struggling with homosexuality, including Crossover Ministries and Exodus International.

Those engaged in the homosexual lifestyle are encouraged to become part of the Mid Lakes Family, to attend services at Mid-Lakes Christian Church. If a person expresses a desire to commit to Christ or become a member of the church and is involved in an inappropriate sexual relationship, whether homosexuality, adultery, cohabiting without marriage, or other, he or she will be encouraged to commit to a life of sexual purity.  Any person willing to make such a commitment can be baptized and synchronously accepted into membership.

If a Mid-Lakes member is found to be engaged in sexual sin, he or she is asked to repent and commit to sexual purity. Those willing to repent are guided to counseling services and support groups that are available to help them overcome their temptations. Those unwilling to repent are not asked to leave, but are asked to withdraw their membership.

Just as a loving parent should extend mercy and truth to a child addicted to drugs, so we believe a loving church should extend both mercy and truth to those who have been engaged in homosexuality. Anyone struggling with this area of his or her life needs to know that Jesus Christ offers forgiveness and access to power through the Holy Spirit to live a life of freedom and sexual purity.